Conversation Between Me and a Former President of SC College Republicans

Some of you already know this, but I used to be the Treasurer of the South Carolina College Republicans. Most people in the organization are very, very conservative. I also thought I was, but I quickly learned that most of my political beliefs just stemmed from my parents.

I update my Facebook status frequently with headlines from GLUEamerica. A former president of SC College Republicans responded saying "Sorry Josh.. but marriage should be between only a man and a woman." This person, who I will call Prez, has not spoken to me in over a year. I was glad that Prez responded, but I felt like I needed to respond as well. This is the conversation that ensued. It is really interesting. Please read it all and let me know what you think.

ME:

Thanks for commenting on my status. I used to think like you, but I was just really sheltered growing up and in denial. You really should look at things from a different perspective. I'm sure you know gay people, even though they may not be out. Actually, I can name one for you. Just in case you didn't know already, ***** *****. He is way in the closet, though. Just think about how many people are affected by inequality and injustice just because people are too narrow-minded and traditional to realize that they are wrong. Do you think we've always got things right as a country? No, we haven't, but we always find our way to justice. That's what we are doing right now with LGBT rights. We have a long way to go, but we are finally starting to see that denying tax-paying citizens many rights is discrimination and inequality. I'd love to talk to you about this anytime you want.

Josh

PREZ:

Hey. Glad you wrote. I agree that the discrimination that our country shows homosexuals is wrong. I do have a couple of great guy friends who are gay and the fact that they are gay does not stop me from loving them to death. Although I love them and know that they are who they are, I do not necessarily agree with their lifestyle. Not because I am sheltered or choose to listen to the government, but because my God and my faith says that it is wrong. I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman because that is what I believe as a Christian. I know people are gay and I know that cannot be changed or really helped. But I can't be ok with same sex marriage. I think its awesome that you have come out and that you stand up for what you believe. I have respect for you for that.
But at the same time, I ask you, are you a Christian and if you are, do you just choose to ignore the parts of the bible that talk about marriage being between only a man and woman? While I respect you for standing up for what you believe, I think I must also do the same and that's why I commented on your status. I hope I haven't offended you. I always liked you and thought you were a nice guy. I would love to discuss it with you.

ME:

The Bible is not what should govern our people. We are a secular government. I respect that you believe in everything the Bible says, but I just don't agree with it. The Bible also has very harsh things to say about women, which I ask you if you believe in. Do you believe that you should only serve your husband? Is that your purpose in life?

The Bible is a historical book. It was written in times where people were way different than they are now. It was also written by humans, even if it was God speaking through them. Humans have a tendency to screw things up and write/spread the wrong message.

I do not think that churches should be forced to perform or even recognize gay marriages, but the state definitely should. If the Bible governed everything, divorce would be illegal and adultery would be a crime. Actually, divorce used to be illegal in the early 1900's. Do you think that was right?

Like I said, I respect everything you believe in, but do you think there's a chance you could be wrong about some things? Consider the risk of denying people the chance to be ACCEPTED into society just because a book tells you that it is wrong. Kids commit suicide because they are told it is wrong to be gay. You even said so yourself that people don't choose to be gay. How can you have gay friends that you love but then would vote to deny them to love each other?

As a Christian, you should want people to love who they want. There is nothing wrong with leading a gay lifestyle. As for the Bible, people should leave the judging to God. If it is true, then we will all face our judgment from him one day. Until then, let us enjoy the same rights as every one else.




I didn't get another response.

1 comment:

  1. I have to admit, while I was aimlessly sitting at work in the office, I found this conversation interesting - but sadly familiar. This is the same discussion format I have with many South Carolina Republicans. There are a few exceptions to that assessment, but they are more libertarian than 'Republican'.

    There is no 'negotiating' with Republicans hellbent on discrimination with regard to gay marriage. At least your conversation was civil - I have had many that neared hand to hand combat. The only reason I think I avoided such a scenario was courtesy of my 6'4" 225lbs frame which served as a deterrent to those who would have surely tore me to pieces had they been easily able to do so without resistance - sad, I know, but its the truth.

    As for what was stated on your part, I would have to agree with everything you said. For a Republican, you sound more and more like a Democrat everyday Josh - though I am adopting an attitude where I don't put preference on political affiliation, I will just stick with 'Josh' over 'Republican' or 'Democrat'.

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